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	<description>Who do you believe more?  Politicians, or elves?</description>
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		<title>By: Christopher Wiseman</title>
		<link>http://loudelf.com/2008/12/03/the-inmates-running-the-asylum/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Wiseman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Add in Luisiana and there you have the Axis.  Tojo Jefferson]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add in Luisiana and there you have the Axis.  Tojo Jefferson</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Wiseman</title>
		<link>http://loudelf.com/2008/12/03/the-inmates-running-the-asylum/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Wiseman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well then, here&#039;s to the Reichstag burning and the trains running on time!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well then, here&#8217;s to the Reichstag burning and the trains running on time!</p>
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		<title>By: LOUDelf</title>
		<link>http://loudelf.com/2008/12/03/the-inmates-running-the-asylum/#comment-181</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That may be like saying Hitler was worse than Stalin...  I&#039;m not sure who WAS worse, and it seems that history keeps turning up new details of their ugliness -- much like these commonwealths&#039; politicians.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That may be like saying Hitler was worse than Stalin&#8230;  I&#8217;m not sure who WAS worse, and it seems that history keeps turning up new details of their ugliness &#8212; much like these commonwealths&#8217; politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Wiseman</title>
		<link>http://loudelf.com/2008/12/03/the-inmates-running-the-asylum/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Wiseman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well the good news Elf, is that compared to Illinois, Massachusetts now looks like paragon of virtue as if the Sons of Liberty had just dumped British tea in the harbor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the good news Elf, is that compared to Illinois, Massachusetts now looks like paragon of virtue as if the Sons of Liberty had just dumped British tea in the harbor.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Wheat</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An ethics course is fine, at the end of which they should be required, if they aren&#039;t already, to sign a Letter of Understanding stating that they have completed the course, understand it and are willing to be held liable for punishment if they should be found to be in violation of ethics rules.  

Unethical behavior in government is insidious for so many reasons, not least of which it engenders a feeling of apathy and hopelessness in the citizenry, particularly if it goes unpunished (or lightly punished), as is usually the case.  Congress as an institution has become a cesspool of corruption and consequently enjoys abysmally low approval ratings.  But worst of all, the conflicts of interest that are regular occurrences and the shady deals that are nothing less than bribery no longer shock the American people into action or outrage.  They simply shrug there shoulders and say, &quot;That&#039;s our Congress!&quot; as though they were the mischievous but lovable neighbor on a sitcom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An ethics course is fine, at the end of which they should be required, if they aren&#8217;t already, to sign a Letter of Understanding stating that they have completed the course, understand it and are willing to be held liable for punishment if they should be found to be in violation of ethics rules.  </p>
<p>Unethical behavior in government is insidious for so many reasons, not least of which it engenders a feeling of apathy and hopelessness in the citizenry, particularly if it goes unpunished (or lightly punished), as is usually the case.  Congress as an institution has become a cesspool of corruption and consequently enjoys abysmally low approval ratings.  But worst of all, the conflicts of interest that are regular occurrences and the shady deals that are nothing less than bribery no longer shock the American people into action or outrage.  They simply shrug there shoulders and say, &#8220;That&#8217;s our Congress!&#8221; as though they were the mischievous but lovable neighbor on a sitcom.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t disagree. To me it&#039;s a disgrace that people are standing up for these criminals. I could care less what party they&#039;re from. I&#039;m a rather forgiving person and I don&#039;t expect my politicians to be perfect, but to me someone like Turner who&#039;s willing to sell out his constituents for $1000 is scum.

I think the problem stems from uninformed voters. Many voters vote the incumbent based on name recognition alone. I think this is probably true especially for relatively &quot;low level&quot; politicians (you could argue that a state senator is not &quot;low level&quot;, but I doubt the average person even knows what a state senator does) like these three. So I don&#039;t know if people voted for these three knowing that they were corrupt or if they voted out of pure ignorance. I don&#039;t know which is worse! 

As far as ethics courses go, I understand and support a basic course (not a course per se, but a standard document online or in book form that goes over the state ethics code in a remedial way). I think there&#039;s a difference between morals and state ethics. State ethics are a definite set of rules and procedures that may or may not be common sense. Although, I won&#039;t disagree - the transgressions committed by these three certainly fell into the common sense category.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t disagree. To me it&#8217;s a disgrace that people are standing up for these criminals. I could care less what party they&#8217;re from. I&#8217;m a rather forgiving person and I don&#8217;t expect my politicians to be perfect, but to me someone like Turner who&#8217;s willing to sell out his constituents for $1000 is scum.</p>
<p>I think the problem stems from uninformed voters. Many voters vote the incumbent based on name recognition alone. I think this is probably true especially for relatively &#8220;low level&#8221; politicians (you could argue that a state senator is not &#8220;low level&#8221;, but I doubt the average person even knows what a state senator does) like these three. So I don&#8217;t know if people voted for these three knowing that they were corrupt or if they voted out of pure ignorance. I don&#8217;t know which is worse! </p>
<p>As far as ethics courses go, I understand and support a basic course (not a course per se, but a standard document online or in book form that goes over the state ethics code in a remedial way). I think there&#8217;s a difference between morals and state ethics. State ethics are a definite set of rules and procedures that may or may not be common sense. Although, I won&#8217;t disagree &#8211; the transgressions committed by these three certainly fell into the common sense category.</p>
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